Friday, April 3, 2009

White Owl Raven 1680 - 1741

Husband of Anawaya Nancy Moytoy and my 8g Grandfather

White Owl Raven was an Algonguin Infant when captured, He was adopted by the Cherokee Tribe and was raised by Woman Nancy,and was of another clan,could have been Paint Clan, which allowed him to marry Nancy Moytoy of the Wolf Clan,as People of the same clan are forbidden to marry by Cherokee Law. Later he was adopted by a man called Trader Tom Watts.,who was the friend and business partner of Thomas Pasmere Carpenter, He married Nanye Hi Nancy Moytoy II, This story by Old Frontiers, by John Brown and by Emmett Starr's history of the Cherokee.

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  1. The Raven of Hiwassee, spelled in various ways, means various Cherokee Chiefs. The Raven line, part of the Bird Band, also has links to places like Raven Rocks of Happy or Scuddy, KY and Pine Mountain and other areas. There is more than one "Raven Rocks" in Cherokee history. Some Martin families of southeast Kenticky lived in sight of Raven Rocks (Elec or Alex and Melinda Martin) and others related to the Cherokee Martin families of Cherokee Nation and tribe.
    cherokeeempire.bravehost.com June, 2010 -martin redbird

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  2. A man named "White Owl" is listed as a relative of Chief Dragging Canoe in some records. He may or may not be The Raven.

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    1. White Owl Raven was grandfather to Dragging Canoe.

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  3. White Owl Raven is my great(9)-grandfather! I am 1/2048 Algonquian through him.

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  4. I have just found out in recent days that he is my 7th great grandfather. This is amazing! To find out you come from such intelligent, heroic, history making people! May I ask if you know how I can go about getting documentation proving these facts? I'm subscribed to Ancestry.com and it has been difficult figuring out the truth vs. what other people decided to slap down on their ancestral tree.

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  5. He is also my 8th great grandfather. There is a long line of Chiefs. My grandpa was Henry Howard Higgins of Aloca Tenneesee.

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  6. White Owl Raven is my 9th great grandfather.My mother was Billie Thelma Kenemer,grandma Buennia Carpenter,gr grandma Irena Eleanor McDaniel,2nd gr grandpa Joseph C McDaniel,3rd gr grandma Susannah Guest,4th gr grandma Nancy Looney,5th gr grandpa Chief John Looney,6th gr grandma Mother of Looney,7th gr grandpa Blackfox,8th gr grandpa Attagullagulla,9th gr grandpa White Owl Raven,10th gr grandpa Moytoy I,11th gr grandpa Thomas Pasmere Carpenter,12th gr grandpa Robert Carpenter

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    1. Hi my name is sucora I'm doing my family history I'm a descendant of the moytoy, canoe, and carpenter's if you would please contact me at sucora2009@yahoo. Com it would be greatly appreciated thank you

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  7. Great web site!!! Lots of information. I'm searching for some info on Ann McPherson (Wind Clan)1698-1756; anyone have anything on her??? Lfoster97@att.net.

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    1. I'm also looking for information about Ann WIND CLAN McPherson.

      Can anyone help??

      winters8@yahoo.com

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    2. Ann wind clan McPherson is my 8th great grandmother, she was married to John Francis Watts, her mother was Ann Unole of the wind clan she was married to Daniel McPherson. She had a son named Thomas Poss Watts. This is all the info I have on them, if anyone else has any more info on them please email me kelly01975smith@gmail.com. would love to learn about them.

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    3. Her mother was Ann unole of the muskogee wind clan

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    4. Ann McPherson was the wife of Old Chief John Watts, mother of Chief John Watts "Young Tassel" who became famous in the Cherokee-American War. Look him up. He has a Wikipedia page.

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  9. He is my 8th great uncle. What sibling are you directly related to?

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  10. He is my 8th great uncle. What sibling are you directly related to?

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  11. He is my 8th Great Grandfather. His son Chief Attakullakulla was my 7th Great Grandfather. I would like to make sure that the information that I have for a woman named Aggie or Aggy "Little Owl" was his daughter. All the information that I have points to his son being her father. Here is my e-mail addresses: flower_85345@yahoo.com. or flower85345@gmail.com

    I would like to hear from anyone concerning this matter. Please send an e-mail message. I just wanted to get this straight an to find proof of this.

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  12. Hello. I was elated to find this site! My GGGG Grandfather married Little Raven Feather, daughter of White Owl Raven and Nancy Moytoy Carpenter (of the Wolf Clan?).

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    1. I’m looking for info as well. My great(7) grandfather married one of White Owl Raven daughters.

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  13. Hello my friends. My name is Justin Reeves. Anyways, nice to meet all of you guys, I think that we might be related, because I’m building my family tree on Ancestry.com and on even though I have a bunch of Cherokee blood from my mother’s side and my father’s side of my family and the more I dig deeper and deeper into my family tree, I’m finding and realizing the same similarities in locations and relationships between my my families. But it is on my father’s side that Chief Attakullakulla is also my 8th great grandfather. Another completely unexpected surprise is when I found Pocahontas and her family in my family through my father’s side... This is my family tree.

    Attakullakulla little carpenter Cherokee (1699 - 1777)
    great-uncle of wife of 6th great-grandfather
    Attakullakulla Cherokee (1680 - 1741)
    father of Attakullakulla little carpenter Cherokee
    "Prince of Chote-Tenase" Chief Attakullakulla "Litte Carpenter" (1708 - 1777)
    son of Attakullakulla Cherokee
    Joppe Stuard (1736 - 1780)
    daughter of "Prince of Chote-Tenase" Chief Attakullakulla "Litte Carpenter"
    Margaret Almond (1750 - 1802)
    daughter of Joppe Stuard
    Elisha Fly (1748 - 1795)
    husband of Margaret Almond
    Jeremiah FLY (1773 - 1846)
    son of Elisha Fly
    Asher Pipkin Fly (1804 - 1868)
    son of Jeremiah FLY
    Jeremiah W.N. Fly (1831 - 1864)
    son of Asher Pipkin Fly
    Milton A Fly (1860 - 1944)
    son of Jeremiah W.N. Fly
    Dallas Floyd Fly (1899 - 1989)
    son of Milton A Fly
    Guinever D Fly (1935 - 2001)
    daughter of Dallas Floyd Fly
    Edward Brian Sand (1957 - )
    son of Guinever D Fly
    Justin Levi Reeves
    You are the son of Edward Brian Sand

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  14. Hi. This is my family tree in relations to Pocahontas.

    Princess Matoaka "Pocahontas" Powhatan (1595 - 1617)
    6th great-aunt of wife of 6th great-grandfather
    Chief Wahunsonacock Powhatan (1545 - 1618)
    father of Princess Matoaka "Pocahontas" Powhatan
    Sheewa-a-nee Powhatan Cornstalk (1577 - 1635)
    son of Chief Wahunsonacock Powhatan
    Chief Young “Shawnee” Cornstalk (1598 - 1650)
    son of Sheewa-a-nee Powhatan Cornstalk
    Sarah S Powhatan (1576 - 1679)
    daughter of Chief Young “Shawnee” Cornstalk
    Clan (1664 - 1732)
    daughter of Sarah S Powhatan
    Oconastota (1710 - 1783)
    son of Clan
    NayO nay-Nionee Ollie - Ani wa ya "Ollie oconostota"((Shawnee/Cherokee/Creek)adopted by Cherokee Paint Clan" Attakullakulla (1720 - 1800)
    daughter of Oconastota
    Joppe Stuard (1736 - 1780)
    daughter of NayO nay-Nionee Ollie - Ani wa ya "Ollie oconostota"((Shawnee/Cherokee/Creek)adopted by Cherokee Paint Clan" Attakullakulla
    Margaret Almond (1750 - 1802)
    daughter of Joppe Stuard
    Elisha Fly (1748 - 1795)
    husband of Margaret Almond
    Jeremiah FLY (1773 - 1846)
    son of Elisha Fly
    Asher Pipkin Fly (1804 - 1868)
    son of Jeremiah FLY
    Jeremiah W.N. Fly (1831 - 1864)
    son of Asher Pipkin Fly
    Milton A Fly (1860 - 1944)
    son of Jeremiah W.N. Fly
    Dallas Floyd Fly (1899 - 1989)
    son of Milton A Fly
    Guinever D Fly (1935 - 2001)
    daughter of Dallas Floyd Fly
    Edward Brian Sand (1957 - )
    son of Guinever D Fly
    Justin Levi Reeves
    You are the son of Edward Brian Sand

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