Thursday, March 26, 2009

A Indian Trail From Amatoya Moytoy to My Mother

Amatoya Moytoy 1640 - 1730 Founder of a Family of Chiefs


My 9g-Grandfather
Amatoya Moytoy of Chota (pronounced mah-tie) was a Cherokee town chief of the early eighteenth century in the area of present-day Tennessee. He held a prominent position among the Cherokee, and held the hereditary title Ama Matai (From the French matai and Cherokee ama--water), which meant "Water Conjurer."

His father was a European, Thomas Pasmere Carpenter, who was descended from the noble Anglo-Norman family of Vicomte Guillaume de Melun le Carpentier. Thus, Moytoy's European lineage can be traced to the Frankish Duke Ansegisel of Metz Meroving, Peppin II, and Charles Martel. This ancestry also makes the Cherokee Moytoys cousins to the Carpenter Earl of Tyrconnell, and thus related to the current British royal family.

The Carpenter family of Devonshire & Plymouth England were small sailing ship owners, many of which were leased out to the East India Trading Company, an affiliation dating to the formation of that company December 31, 1600. Documented ownership of fifteen different ships owned by the Carpenter family, those of which were involved with moving furs between the Gulf Ports & Glasgow, or Dublin, and trade goods for North America. These ships usually made stops both directions at Barbados where the family had banking connections set up. These ships were small and fast, often able to make the crossing from Scotland and Ireland in less than thirty days. They were shallow draft ships, capable of handling shallow water ports with ease. The first documented trip made by Thomas Pasmere Carpenter occurred April 1640, sailing from Maryland to Barbados aboard the Hopewell, and returning on the Crispian in September 1640. He made another trip in March 1659 departing Charleston South Carolina aboard the Barbados Merchant, returning on the Concord in August 1659.

Twenty year old Thomas Pasmere Carpenter came to Jamestown, Virginia from England in 1627, living in a cave near the Shawnee. Thomas was called "Cornplanter" by the Shawnee, derived from their sign language that matched as near as possible to the work of a carpenter. He married a Shawnee woman named "Pride" and bore a son around 1635 named Trader Carpenter.

Amatoya was taught by his father to “witch” for water with a willow stick. He had become so adept at water witching that the Cherokee called him "water conjurer" or Ama Matai (Ama is Cherokee for water). Ama Matai eventually became pronounced as Amatoya. It was later shortened to “Moytoy”, so he is known as Moytoy I. He ruled the town of Chota sometime between the beginning of the eighteenth century and 1730.


In 1680, Amatoya married Quatsie of Tellico. Many of their descendants went on to become prominent leaders, founding a family that effectively ruled the Cherokee for a century.

Notable members include:
Moytoy I, Chief of Chota; born around 1640 and probably died in 1730; was leading chief at the time of his death
Moytoy II, Emperor of the Cherokees and Chief of Great Tellico; son of Moytoy I; born around 1687; leading chief from 1730 to 1760
Moytoy III
Moytoy IV, Raven of Chota
Kanagatucko, Old Hop; leading chief from 1760-1761.
Attacullaculla, Prince of Chota-Tanasi; born around 1708, died around 1777; leading chief from 1761 to around 1775
Oconostota, Warrior of Chota and Beloved Man of the Cherokee; born ca. 1710 and died in 1783; was war chief of the Cherokee Nation from 1775 to 1780
Nancy Ward, Beloved Woman of the Cherokee and granddaughter of Moytoy I
Major Ridge, grandson of Oconostota and of Attacullaculla
General Stand Watie, great-grandson of Oconostota and of Attacullaculla

83 comments:

  1. As someone also doing research, I find your story quite interesting. I'm a descendent of Gosaduisga and have seen some conflicting info, but your research has been insightful. I can see where this could become addictive!

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    1. Yes it does confirm Cherokee Blood lines. It is also sufficient information to become a tribe member of the Western Cherokees. It is very difficult, almost impossible right now (and in my opinion not worth it) trying to become a member of the Eastern Cherokees because of the money involved with the Casinos.

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    2. Really it's because the roles have closed except to newborns whose parents must take a DNA test to prove Eastern Cherokee blood.

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    3. With DNA we could know what tribe or many different tribes, as in my case, but I cannot enroll because grandmothers married white men who wanted their wives to be white so their children would be white so they would not be persecuted, killed, rounded up and moved, tagged like cattle. I can see why but I totally look Indian and am Cherokee, Choctaw, Shawnee. Also related to Pocahontas. My grandmother on my fathers side told me her grandmother was full Cherokee. I was so excited when I saw my mom, that was the first thing I told her and she blurted out well you are on my side too. I don't know how many times I heard her say she wished she'd never told me. I know, I told my son and he is proud as I am.

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    4. I don't know anything about the other tribes, but if you have a relative on the Dawes Roll you can be enrolled as a Western Cherokee. They or you certainly do not have to be full blood Cherokees. It is not the amount of Cherokee you have, it is strictly about the Dawes Roll. White men and women who married Cherokees are then considered to be a member of the tribe. And I too a very proud of my Cherokee heritage. I love this quote from
      Jim Pell: Principal Chief of the North Alabama Cherokee Tribe

      "There is no such thing as 'part-Cherokee.' Either you're Cherokee or you're not.It isn't the quantity of Cherokee blood in your veins that is important, but the quality of it . . . your pride in it. I have seen full-bloods who have virtually no idea of the great legacy entrusted to their care. Yet, I have seen people with as little as 1/500th blood quantum who inspire the spirits of their ancestors because they make being Cherokee a proud part of a their everyday life."




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    5. Sharon, I believe the way you do. Yes I have Cherokee Blood and I am proud of my family for all the trials and things they put up with. Yes, because of them I have had a better life. I just do not know how to prove this. I have done research on my family and have a lot of proof. I do not know to put this together to prove it.

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    6. Do you have a relative on the Dawes Roll, Shadow?

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  2. Yes, there is a lot of conflicting information out there. This is often caused by various sources confusing people of the same name (Cherokees traditionally pass the same ceremonial name down along various branches of the family) so there are many Moytoys who are often confused, and relationships can be different according to different sources. As a descendent of Attacullaculla (a member of the family by marriage, adoption, and possibly blood), family tradition often solves a lot of these problems.

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  3. amatoya moytoy was a realitive of my grandmother. she was born in 1912 died 1983. her connection was through granny hopper,and thomas essary.

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    1. She was my great x5 grandmother.

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    2. My family has connection through Granny Hopper and Thomas Essary. Dave C Essary his son reared my great grand mother Emmerline Emily Carter. Any information on this line would be appreciated.

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  4. I'm descended from Moytoy multiple ways. Distant cousins continued to marry in Oklahoma after the removal. My family tree includes:
    Moytoy II the Pigeon of Tellico
    Nancy Ward, Beloved Woman of the Cherokee
    White Owl Raven
    Chief Willenawah "The Great Eagle"
    Wurteh (Sequoyah's Gmother)
    Chief Oconostota/aka Standing Turkey
    Chief Doublehead
    Clogoittah
    Chief John Bowles
    Agiligina Kenoteta Rising Fawn
    Ghigoneli/Catherine Gunter
    Edward Gunter
    Keys, Rider, Gunter, Starr, Harlin, Alberty, Thomas, Riley, Priber, are some surnames.

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    1. Many of the names you listed as relatives are also relatives of mine. Great Chief Doublehead and Drags Blanket were my 6th great grand parents as Amatoy Moytoy also a ninth great grandfather. I am on Ancestry.com. Surnames Bertholf, Riley, Priber

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  5. I also found this story interesting, as I always assumed that Amatoya was full blood. At such an early time, it would have been expected. I am descended through Moytoy the Pigeon, Willenawah Great Eagle, Chief Doublehead, Gu-Lu-Sti-Yu, Nannie Riley. It sounds as if intermarriage began so early, it would be difficult to ever establish a true degree of Indian blood.

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  6. The Shawnee and Cherokee Nations adopted by blood and marriage. No matter the racial or ethnic composition of someone who originated from outside the Clans, if they married a Cherokee, they were considered as full-blood by the Nation. They remained "full-blood" unless they remarried outside the Nation, in which case they were considered to revert or relinquish their blood-tie vow. The "provable dna" blood-ties via validated lineages and delineations only became re-defined during the time of Native American removal [Trail of Tears for example], and federal rolls for purposes of documenting the Nation, by the US Government, came into effect. US government required a person to "validate" their "native claim", first, as a way of counting the population which they were removing from native soils, and, then, to "prove" their right to receive federal dollars for support. Moytoy is considered to be full-blood by members of the Nation because his white father married Pride, a Shawnee. Noone knows if Pride was 'mixed blood' or not. With a name like Pride, which is english, it would seem that Thomas Carpenter was not the only white to intermarry at this time. Shawnees had already had at least 150 years of euro-white contact by the time Thomas showed up as a trader. The name Pride is also consistant with many early american names such as Loving, Charity, Comfort, Patience, Simplicity, Mercy, Joy etc. I have an early american ancestor named Comfort and one named Gladness, as well as one name Plenty. The emigrants who established our first colonies had a tough go. They often named their children for the virtues which they longed for, or identified with. Initially, many emigrants worked with the various Nations, and intermarried without racist views. Shawnee and Cherokee, they remembered their blood ties to Thomas Carpenter and by associative lineage based on their own societal order, to the British and, by extension, to the new Americans. So, a few generations later, they actually saw the bonds as ones of family [which is the truth]. British and new American views were roman-euro-centric, however, and did not politically agree. It is my humble opinion that they were wrong. The Nation had it right. People of my people, Blood of my blood, We are all earths children. >k.c.

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    1. What a beautiful, interesting and insightful article! I am also a descendent and am on a path to trace heritage since my deceased mother had set out to do. She passed away before she could find Ancestry.Com. If you have direct family members listed on The Dawes Rolls ... would that confirm blood lines?

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  7. james barry stricklinApril 23, 2010 at 12:41 PM

    i am james barry stricklin of savannah,tn and i am a desendant of cheif moytoy and granny hopper through thomas essary to minnie essary ,but i nee help with this please send an e-mail to hardinco2000@yahoo.com and tell me how im kin.

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  8. Oh my goodness! I just was googling Attacullaculla's decendents and came across the name "Nancy Ward". My father was Kenneth Ward (son of Edward Ward and nephew of Martin Ward; he was born in Nashville, TN). I've heard only sketchy tales of being related to Attacullaculla (mostly because my father's parents died when he was young so he didn't get much family history passed down to him.) It's wonderful to actually see this.

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  9. Hi Relatives!!!!
    I am Lowrey
    Major George Lowrey & Lucy Benge are where my family take off begins where we are related
    Oh how our ancestors would love to know we are all here, that they are here in us

    Shelly in California

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    1. Mine too.

      Shelly from Idaho

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  10. Can I assume that 'Trade Carpenter' is Amatoya Moytoy?

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  11. This website is a total fraud witn no proofs or substantial evidence. Family connections all wrong, dates way off, and no proofs, which is worse than no website.

    http://www.dagulaku.com/

    Wappa' e-shiquechi' nika

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    1. What is this website? It looks like a schizophrenic mess. I don't see a purpose to it.

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  12. I just found my family i from WaLi Vann John trader Vann 1700's. We are from Texas.

    My mother had a olive complexion was small stature, quite person and she always told us she was indian
    But she didn't know how.
    Ancestry.com The history is outstanding.
    I am very proud to be of indian desent.

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  13. I am related to amatoya moytoy chota, agustin chota is one of my great grandmothers through my great grandmother birdie hazel rogers if you have asny more info i would really car to know

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  14. I am 63 and just recently learned that my mother's grt,grt,grt grandmother was Mary Ann Black, daughter of Black Fox and that making us descendents of Attakullakulla and Moytoy. Amazing! If anyone has more info please email me tmmorris@hughes.net. Love finding your site!

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    1. TM,

      Have you learned anything new re: Black Fox, Attakullakulla, Moytoy, and Thomas Pasmere Carpenter? Have latest post on thejamesscrolls.

      V/R,
      Jim

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  16. I've been researching the Moytoy line for some time. My gggg grandfather is Old Hop-Standing Turkey- Kanagatuckco. He was not a Cherokee as many believe. He was Shawnee and he married his cousin Su-gi Rainmaker. Su-gi was Shawnee/Cherokee. Old Hop went to live with his Aunt and Uncle Amatoya Moytoy after the death of his parents. He was known as Standing Turkey Cornstalk the son of Big Turkey Cornstalk the grandson of Hokolesqua Opechan Cornstalk. Old Hop and Su-gi had a daughter named Grasshopper and she married David McDaniel a registered Indian trader.

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    1. Grasshoppers name was Susan. She married William David MC Daniel in 1752. My info shows that he died that same year.I am a related. My daughter will be interested in your info. Thanks

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  17. Thanks for further assisting the Corruption of the Truth by posting Blatant lies pertaining to NOT MOYTOY, NO MOYTOY never existed &c.

    Ani'-Yun'wi ya' a'na's'gv'ti Toochlar hi'ge ani go'la da'gah' da -

    Dagulaku

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  18. My name is Carie Adkins Westbrook. I am a descendant of MoytoyI through his granddaught BlueSky Cornstalk who was Grandadughter of Amatoy's son Amatoy of Tellico. Bluesky's father was Shawnee Chief Cornstalk. She married Parker Vincent Adkins. I have been doing research for ten years in hopes to find a roll number to which I can apply for a CDIB card from at Cherokee Nation in Tahlequah, OK. Does anyone have any information of direct descendants of Moytoy I or II that are on the Dawes Final Rolls? cariewestbrook@live.com

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    1. Hi Carie, My name I Sheila King. I am a direct descendant of Grasshopper and William David McDaniel. Four generations below them in my tree lies Martha Conner and her daughter Beulah Francis Tucker. Both are on the Dawes Final Rolls out of Oklahoma. Perhaps this can help you find what you are looking for.
      MARTHA CONNER:
      1880 Census [CN]: Cooweescoowee, 471
      1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 3855, roll# 9293 as Martha Tucker
      1906-09 Miller roll: Afton, OK, ap# 24873, roll# 27399 as Martha Tucker
      Blood: 1/16 Cherokee

      BEULAH F TUCKER, b. 1899. More About BEULAH F TUCKER:
      1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 3855, roll# 9297
      Blood: 1/32 Cherokee

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  19. this is very interesting.i have been researching my family on ancestry.com and as i have always known i was of indian descent, i just recently discovered i am related to amatoyoa moytoy,ka na fire, sookie ?, i have not been able to trace back any further,but maybe someone out there can be of assistance. (i'm also the granddaughter of richard essary sr.)

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  20. My mother's father, grandfather, & g. grandfather are all on the Dawes Final Rolls. I can trace back to Chief Moytoy from her g.g. grandmother who was Caroline Carroll. Her mother was Nancy or Nannie Ward, daughter of Catherine McDaniel, who was the daughter of Granny Hopper, who was Old Hop's daughter. Old Hop's father was Chief Moytoy.

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    1. hi, I noticed your post was from over a year ago, but I just read it and wanted to check in with you regarding the linkage of Nancy Ward -- Catherine McDaniel -- Granny Hopper -- Old Hop -- Chief Moytoy. My information shows: Nancy Ward -- Tame Doe Raven -- Nancy Moytoy -- Chief Amatoya Moytoy. My info staes that Old Hop and Nancy Moytoy were siblings.

      What do you make of all this?

      thanks,
      Pam Treu
      pamtreu@gmail.com

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    2. Who was your Mother and her father? My 3rd great grand parents were Caroline Carroll & Powhatan T. Gewin. Would love to have their roll numbers since I have been unable to find them in several years of research. Your help would be treasured.

      Carol

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    3. I am also a descendent of Moytoy. I am very interested in getting the dawes final rolls number..I have been searching for this information...I am also trying to figure out the name of the unknown cheorkee son of moytoyII father of Ani Waya..email is missourigirl.lc@gmail.com

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    4. I am wanting help trying to find Jenni ani WiYa father, he is known as the unknown cherokee his father is Moytoy II..Does anyone have the dawes#..I am thinked to the Westbrook and Fogles? thanks

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  21. I am surprised that so many people are so negative. It is wonderful, if you know your family heritage or have stories of generations that came before you. It is fantastic to know your culture. For some, their families were ashamed of their indian heritage and made a point to hide it. It is a new and exciting process to reclaim the identity that was denied for so many years. It is an honor to finally connect to a past that was just beyond reach. Every one of us searching needs encouraged, support, and guidance. Please, be our brothers and sisters that we have been denied. Help us find our relatives and know what being Cherokee means.

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  22. Carie Adkins WestbrookMay 12, 2011 at 3:42 PM

    Thanks for that info on the Dawes but with out more specific names I can't connect it to my tree. The application is pretty specific. I have since figured out that I may not be descendant of Bluesky, do of Moytoy II of Tellico. Many researchers believe Parker Adkins only had 2 children with Bluesky, Littleberry and Charity.

    I am positive tho that I am descendant of Moytoy's grandaughter White Wing "big Nancy" Cornstalk, d.o. Chief Stout Man "Young Peter" Cornstalk. Which ties me to Chief Cornstalk "Peter I" and Moytoy II of Tellico.

    White Wing married Elijah Adkins. They had four children, 3 boys and a girl. She left Elijah, taking "little Nancy" with her, then became the 3rd wife of Tecumseh. White Wing's son Richard Adkins is my 5th gr-grandfather.

    Does anyone else connect to this tree, or have info on this line that they'd be willing to share?

    As always, I love becoming aquainted with new family members, no matter how distant the kinship.

    Carie Adkins Westbrook
    cariewestbrook@live.com

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  23. Hi my name is Quatsie Brim I'm 22, born in Oklahoma and I know that from my family history and my family members that I have a strong connection with this group of Cherokees in this page. I know that I am named after my great grandmother whos maiden name was Quatsie Catherine Copeland..and her father or my great great grandfather, was James Riley Copeland and I know he was a great leader in Oklahoma and was sought after for legal advice. I guess I'm just looking for more connections about my name and family tree.. I couldn't help but notice that Amotoya's wife and me had the same name.. I just dont know many Quatsies except for me and my great grandmother..... Please email me is any of u share a connection hhokomo@aol.com

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    1. I also am from Moytoy and the Copelands. I am a direct descendant of Col. Stephen Copeland. Does that ring a bell?

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  24. I have been researching this part of my family for years...it is truly fascinating to make these discoveries.I am related to this line through Morning Kimborogh whose mother was from a tribe in Surry Virgina in 1668 and whose father was Soloman John Kimborogh.Soloman John's Father was a Fivekiller and Son of Trader Amatoya and Quatsy Tellico.I would love to find more out about Morning Kimboroghs mothers family.She married a William Little that I believe was also of mixed decent.Any ideas of where I could research further?...bastante.mavis@yahoo.com

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    1. Mavis,
      I have also been looking at my family tree! I am a Little my greatgrand father was Harvey Ingram Little son of William. I have found most of my info on Ancestry.com I know about as much as you! Have you found out any more about Mornings mothers family? Pam chatty_devine@yahoo.com

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  25. I believe I am 11th generation descendent of Chief Moytoy. I am hoping to find any records of John Ward (my great grandfather) and his wife Emma. John's father was Yell Clement Ward. I have found their entries on the Dawes Roll, but would like to know more about my G-grandmother Emma, as we believe she was of full-blood.

    Stephanie11, Tamara10, Roscoe Eugene9, JOHN8, YELL CLEMENT7, GEORGE W6, JAMES5 WARD, CATHERINE KATIE4 MCDANIEL, GRANNY3 HOPPER (Grasshopper), OLD HOP2 (Kanagatucko), A-MA-DO-YA1 MOYTOY

    Any help would be greatly appreciated! sminter2000@hotmail.com

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  26. Hi I am descendant of Chief Moytoy. My line goes 'Phillips, Raper, McDaniel, Old Hop, Moytoy. If anyone is interested in exchanging family info please contact me @ walkersarehome@yahoo.com.

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  27. I'm a descendant through Moytoy, Doublehead, Colbert, Tharp, etc. Hit me up if you have any info on this line.
    Layla.bug1284@gmail.com

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  28. Hi all... I just found out that I am part of this family! We never knew where my ggrandfather came from, but thanks to Ancestry.com, I now know that his ggrandmother was Cornblossom, daughter or Doublehead. I did not even know that we were related to the Cherokee, so this has been very exciting! Although my family moved to Texas 30 yrs. ago, we are orignially from the Pulaski/Wayne Co. Kentucky area.

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    1. I really hate to burst your bubble. But Cornblossom is one of those internet myths. She never existed, there is not one schred of factual evidence that she was a real person. Even the Troxel(sp?) family that started the story of Cornblossom & Yalloh Falls was a made up story. There is a whole lot of those kind of things that get picked up & repeated over & over again. From sites like Ancestry & others. The family trees are just posted by folks like you & me. With no cross checking or error corrections etc. That's why you need to rely on primary reccords in places like the National Archives.

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    2. Cornblossom is not an internet myth!

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    3. Oh Gee Mike .. I hope you are wrong!! What a tragidy it would be if all those people believing to have these descendents were all mislead. I would think that would be a HUGE fraud on the Ancestry.Com people

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  29. Thank you so much. I just started this ancestry.com. My Grand daughter who is 7, Is very interested an wanted me to look up a few. WELL we all Know what that started. It is wonderful , because I have had an Indian Fedish ,for a Long time. I have a wolf, I collect Indian Pictures, And the Indian on the horse is my Favorite. He is suppose to be called "The End Of The Trail". My Heart Breaks When I see Anything about the Trail of tears. To Know that they are a part of my life, is so Great. I am still a little confused on the wives an children. I am going to make a trip to oklahoma, not to far , we now live in Arkansas. thanks again

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  30. I found on one person's tree in Ancestry.com that Phaerba Ammons was daughter of Phoebe Eseentrino which was daughter of Rebecca C Indian, daughter of Great Eagle can annyone confirm this or say it is not true can't find any information.

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  31. Can the blogger please remove my comment? I really am trying to clean up my visible Internet life and found this when I googled myself years later. I would really, really, really appreciate it. -Heather

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  32. Heather, I will be glad to remove it, but I am not sure which one is yours. There is a Heather comment, which doesn't need any cleaning up as far as I am concerned. If you were an Anonymous give me the time and date and I will be glad to remove it.

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  33. Hello,

    Sorry you spent so much time Copying and Pasting My Formally Copyrighted Work, published in LEGEND OF THE WOLF, ISBN Formally Registered Globally, which Proves You a Plagarist Guilty of Formal Copyright Infringement. You will be hearing from my Attorney forthwith.

    Furthermore, Thomas Carpenter did not descend from the Ancient European families Cited on Your BOGUS Website, which his family of Plymouth Devonshire Family did not orginate Europe.

    The following Quote – Was STOLEN From http://dauglaku.com by wannabe Shawnee Liar Don Greene author of “Shanee Heritage” et al in 2003 which, was and still is a Formal © Copyright ® Registered Trademark Website in Early 2003.

    “The Carpenter family of Devonshire & Plymouth England were small sailing ship owners, many of which were leased out to the East India Trading Company, an affiliation dating to the formation of that company December 31, 1600. Documented ownership of fifteen different ships owned by the Carpenter family, those of which were involved with moving furs between the Gulf Ports & Glasgow, or Dublin, and trade goods for North America. These ships usually made stops both directions at Barbados where the family had banking connections set up. These ships were small and fast, often able to make the crossing from Scotland and Ireland in less than thirty days. They were shallow draft ships, capable of handling shallow water ports with ease. The first documented trip made by Thomas Pasmere Carpenter occurred April 1640, sailing from Maryland to Barbados aboard the Hopewell, and returning on the Crispian in September 1640. He made another trip in March 1659 departing Charleston South Carolina aboard the Barbados Merchant, returning on the Concord in August 1659.”

    Jim White, Researcher Author - Legend of The Wolf, © 2005, update 2007, update 2009 … Lulu Press

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    1. ok ... as an outsider of all your bickering ... let me ask .. What is Fact?? Were the Carpenters traders from England or not? If the family did not originate from Plymouth Devonshire England ... then where??? Inquiring minds want to know!!

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    2. History can't be copyrighted. Only original work can be copyrighted.

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  34. Grateful for all posts and terribly fascinated by their contents. Am hoping to correspond with those with documentary evidence of these links as I'm a descendent of Black Fox (via William Davis), Attakullakulla and Moytoy. Can be reach at james.swords@cox.net

    Your most Humble & Obt. Servt.
    Jim Swords
    Jamestown/Wmbg, VA

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  35. Looks like we are distant cousins through Nancy Ward, Cornstalk, Moytoy and everyone else!

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  36. My Grandmother's is named Ethel May (Carpenter ) Fisher . I would love some help from any one . To know my Carpenter Family . This is my Email address blustar957@yahoo.com . My Grandfather names is Harry Leo Fisher. I would be so delighted for help. God Bless You .

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  37. This is my 17th Great Grand father through my dads side of the family..... it has been an inspirational journey researching my family tree.

    Sonja Yount
    iyount1@att.net

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  38. I am so glad I have found this! I had always wondered about Amatoya's lineage... I've found so much information on his descendants, just not his ancestors! Thank you for this information! I am related to Amatoya through his son, Old Hop, Sookie Hopper, Catherine McDaniel, Mary Elvira Hensley, Mary Elvira Ward, to Lille Belle Holland, who is my 3rd great grandmother!

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  39. Do you have a Mary Evia Carter Essary? Just asking! Thanks!

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    1. No, I don'. Good Luck with finding her

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  40. charlotte a. kirkland ,I am cousin to some of yall.I am through...amatoya moytoyquatsy of tellico they are my 10th ggrand parents.my tree goes on into the heltons,where eudica d helton mar. william r kirkland(part shawnee)I am proud of my new found heritage. Charlotte a. kirkland

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  41. My family is also kin to Granny Hopper and Thomas Essary. Dave C Essary,his son,and Sarah Carter Essary reared my grandmother Minnie Malone (Essary)

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  42. What is your Mother & grandfathers name? Caroline Carroll was my 3rd GGrandmother she married Powhatan Tecumseh Gewin. What is the roll numbers. In several years of research I have not found them on any rolls.
    Your help would be appreciated.
    Carol

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  43. I hate all the arguing on here. Someone actually said Moytoy didn't exist?. I am very glad to have found this site.

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  44. I just discovered from ancestry.com that I am also a direct descendant of Amatoya Moytoy. I learned Chief Oconostota is my 9th Great Grandfather. Many of my relatives have their Cherokee Nation cards, but I still do not. I am working on it! So--we are related? Very interesting stuff!

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  45. Love this, thank you for writing it. I love our families history.. I am realated to MoyToy through .. Amotoya of Tellico Moytoy I ➝ Supreme Chief A-ma'-he-ta-i Moytoy ➝ Kanagatoga Moytoy ➝ Sookie Hopper then the McDaniel line to Cummings.

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    1. Hi Jackie. I'm June Hicks-Kilpatrick and just posted a link that has your family connection with Old Hops .... linking the McDaniels and Cummings. Best wishes on your ancestral journey.

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  46. Hello family! My name is June Hicks-Kilpatrick and my paternal grandmother, Mertie Parris' 5th great-grandfather was George Parris, who was the son of Richard Pearis and Pratchey. After my father and aunt (his only sister) deaths in 1994 - my cousin had found documents that revealed information of 4 generations of my lineage. I did the research of names that he shared with me and the best resource to share is Cherokee Lineages by James R. Hicks, Jr. via FamilyTreeMaker.com. His research is very extensive and was/is on point with the information that was given to me. I can assure you that you will find your/our links to each and everyone. We've come from GREAT ANCESTORS and I'm so proud to know that WE are a part of History! My blessings to each of my Moytoy blood ties!!

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    1. My ancestor Richard G.Paris is buried in Paris Cemetery Clinton County Indiana(1789-1845).

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  47. I thought Chief Amatoya Moytoy was/is a full blood Cherokee. How could this be if these people above say his father is/was from England? That would be part English.

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  49. I thought Chief Amatoya Moytoy was/is a full blood Cherokee. How could this be if these people above say his father is/was from England? That would be part English.

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  50. Chief Doublehead was my partner's 6 great grandfather and his daughter Cornblossom my partner's 5th great grandmother. Can you please tell me, was Amatoya Moytoy Chief Doublehead's grandfather? Do you.have an actual family tree showing descendants?

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  51. Hey Mae West,
    Yes Amatoya Moytoy was his grandfather. I have a public tree on Ancestry.com which you can go to with this link http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/9762032/family?cfpid=-747754218&selnode=1. I am doing my best to make sure my tree is correct, but I would never make any promises.My mother's tree name is Thelma Roxanna James at the above link. Hope this helps. Sharon

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  52. I am trying to verify the name of John L Dean on the Dawes Rolls. his enrollment was by blood, his card number was 2233. his roll number was 23276. He lived 1848 until 1917.

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    1. If you will send me your email address I will send you a copy of the card as it is seen on Ancestry.Com. It is easily searched and seen there. It shows him as 26 years old and his family card shows what I would guess is his wife and 3 children (a set of twins and another child).

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  53. Ancestry .com is a fantastic resource; but so many of my cousins lock their trees, and my eyes are failing me; the Dawes rolls are not easy to use.

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